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gram. Appropriate reprograming requests are being processed by the Army and the Department of Defense for the most urgent of these items, in the total amount of $9.8 million. Current evaluation of project estimates on all projects underway and yet to be awarded indicates that we have about $10.1 million in accumulated savings and cancellations available to finance these urgent reqiurements.

Mr. Chairman, this concludes the brief of my statement. With your permission, sir, I would like to present the repetitive items in our program which I hope will assist the committee when they come to the individual line items.

The first of these is our barracks program.

GENERAL STATEMENT

Senator STENNIS. Just a minute and let me make one additional statement here for the record.

The committee is dispensing with the testimony, certainly for the time being, of the Secretary of the Army, or a representative of Defense, not because it will not be of value, but the testimony has already been taken by the authorization committee of the Senate Armed Services and I think it is best for the committee to get directly into the proof here of these projects and at the conclusion of the consideration of the line item projects we can then call for any specific policy statement that we may wish. Otherwise, we have already had the policy statements.

All right, we will take up the line items.

TROOP HOUSING

Major General SHULER. Mr. Chairman, the first of our repetitive items is barracks.

The troop housing at Army installations on permanent installations consists of three primary types which may be characterized as follows: The first type is the permanent barracks. The second type is temporary barracks which received some modernization under the Department of the Army barracks improvement program during the period 1955 through 1957.

The third type is our temporary barracks other than the temporary barracks which were improved. These have had little to no improvements, Mr. Chairman, and are in poor to bad condition. In the longrange objective the Army desires to house troops at our permanent installations entirely within permanent barracks. In the interim, prior to programing for replacements of the improved temporary barracks, programs for necessary replacements of the type 3 barracks; that is, those that were not improved at all, should receive emphasis, and this replacement should be accomplished as soon as possible as the maintenance costs are becoming excessive, and many of the structures are fast approaching structural failure.

Our approach to the barracks construction program is to deal in balanced packages of approximately regimental size wherever possible. Such a complex must provide administrative and supply facilities of battalion level and regimental level, and such additional support facilities as a gymnasium, chapel, branch post exchange and dispensary for the troops. This, in effect, sir, is a complex of barracks and the necessary facilities for a regimental area.

TOTAL BARRACKS REQUIREMENT

In the overall barracks situation, the installations for this consideration can be best visualized in three categories as follows: recruit training posts, division-type posts, and other posts such as headquarters, hospitals, schools, depots, port terminals and that type. The total requirement, sir, is 402,000 spaces. The deficit is 186,000 spaces and this is broken down into 98,000 at recruit training posts, 46,000 at division posts, and 42,000 at other type posts.

In order of magnitude generalities, we have in existence about onehalf of our total requirements, and one-half of our deficit is at the recruiting posts, one-fourth of the deficit is at the division-type posts, and one-fourth is at other type posts.

The fiscal year 1964 request for construction in the contiguous 48 States is for 14,800 of these spaces, or approximately one-eleventh of the deficit.

This program includes barracks complexes at three recruit training posts Fort Dix, Fort Leonard Wood, and Fort Jackson. Emphasis is being placed on the recruit training posts since 50 percent of our deficit exists in these type posts.

Another barracks complex is included for the Special Warfare Center at Fort Bragg. At these 4 posts I have named, 10,950 spaces are requested; 4,050 additional spaces are included at 8 other installations to fulfill urgent specific requirements.

REPLACEMENT OF WORLD WAR II STRUCTURES

These barracks are a replacement of deteriorated temporary World War II structures at our hard core Army posts. Since these structures have been utilized for a long time, and have exceeded their economical life expectancy already, it is necessary that the present rate of replacements be increased.

At the present rate it would take over 13 more years to eliminate the barracks complex deficiency. There is little doubt in my mind that these deteriorated World War II structures will not last out this long a period. They will simply fail structurally, sir, at some point of time. We are only asking to plan a reasonable rate each year so that we can have permanent barracks for the men when this happens.

Senator STENNIS. Pardon me; you say even if we grant all of this request it would still be 13 years before you would get it done?

Major General SHULER. Yes, sir; that is correct, Mr. Chairman. We have only been able to put into all of our temporary replacement a little over $100 million a year and this just simply is not enough each year, sir, to take care of this situation.

As you know, these structures were built with green lumber and just what you could get during World War II when things were scarce and they were thrown together in a hurry for the mobilization and were never intended to last this long. This is our problem, sir.

Senator STENNIS. Shall we put in a list of those now?

Major General SHULER. Yes, sir; I have furnished Mr. Rexroad with a list for the record.

Senator STENNIS. We will put it in now.

(The data referred to follows:)

Fiscal year 1964, military construction, Army, funding plan—Projects of repetitive

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Major General SHULER. The next area of repetitive items is our bachelor officers' quarters.

Senator STENNIS. How much money is involved, as you say in this barracks concept, sir?

Major General SHULER. This amount is $58,807,000.

Senator STENNIS. In the bill?

Major General SHULER. In the bill; yes, sir.

Senator STENNIS. And that is how many spaces?

Major General SHULER. That is 14,704 spaces.

Senator STENNIS. That averages about how much per space? $4,000?

Major General SHULER. About $4,000 and this covers and includes all the outside utilities and all of these supporting structures such as the chapel and the rest of the supporting structures for the barracks.

Senator STENNIS. Well, do you list that here? I like that idea of having your supporting facilities go along with the package. That includes chapel and everybody else?

Major General SHULER. It includes chapel, regimental gymnasium, regimental post exchange, regimental dispensary, and the supply and maintenance buildings for the regiment. Of course, we have to have a heating plant and motor repair shop.

Senator STENNIS. You built a little town, is that right?

Major General SHULER. There are 4,000 people, sir, involved in one of these regimental areas 4,000 people. It is almost a little town. The cost of all of this is included in that figure I gave you although all the other buildings are not listed on the list. The barracks spaces are listed, but all of these buildings are included in that total money

amount.

Senator STENNIS. $58 million?

Major General SHULER. Yes, sir.

Senator STENNIS. All right, your next item?

TYPES OF STRUCTURES

Major General SHULER. The next area is the bachelor officers' quarters. The housing for bachelor officers at permanent Army installations consists of three types:

First are the permanent structures, and second are the improved structures which includes semipermanent buildings intended to serve as quarters less than 25 years and modernized World War II mobilization-type temporary buildings intended to serve as quarters for less than 10 years, and, third, temporary structures which are entirely substandard unimproved World War II mobilization-type buildings. The Army objective is to provide permanent-type housing for all bachelor officers at permanent installations.

At this time the Army has been able to satisfy only one-third of the total requirement for permanent facilities for our bachelor officers. Until the long-range objectives are met, approximately 15,000 male and female bachelor officers must occupy quarters of marginal or substandard adequacy or must rent accommodations off the post. Recognizing the need to take care of the most pressing requirements first, our policy is to program construction of permanent facilities to replace our wornout, unimproved, temporary structures first.

There are presently about 15,000 substandard spaces in use.

Priority is given to installations where this situation exists. Priority is also given to installations which are isolated and where offpost accommodations are not available.

FUTURE PRIORITIES

The Army's future years construction programs will continue to replace unimproved structures at a reasonable rate until they are removed from our inventory. Priority will then be given to replacing about 10,000 so-called improved spaces, all of which by 1968 will have expended their present marginal adequacy.

In accordance with Department of Defense directives, the Army uses standard triservice designs in programing and constructing bachelor officer's quarters. Currently motel-type building plans are used to accommodate up to 100 officers, and high-rise-type buildings are used to accommodate any larger number at one installation. In accordance with Department of Defense standards and criteria, the Army has been able to construct facilities within the $8,500 statutory limit established by the Congress.

The United States, sir, invests an average of $38,000 in developing and training a regular Army officer through his training and his first 2 years of service. This applies also to the distinguished military ROTC graduate. To protect this investment of $38,000, and to realize a significant return from it, we feel, sir, that emphasis must be placed on providing measures that will enhance the attraction of an Army career to these young officers.

The provision of private modern living accommodations is one such measure we feel, sir.

Senator STENNIS. Give me the high point of the figures now. How many is the total amount, 6,179?

Major General SHULER. That is right for 864 spaces.

Senator STENNIS. That takes care of the 864 spaces?

Major General SHULER. Yes, sir. That includes all the outside utilities for these buildings.

AVERAGE COST PER PERSON

Senator STENNIS. That is a little less than $8,000 per person?

Major General SHULER. Slightly over $7,000, sir, and that includes all the utilities. The reason it is this low is because the Department of Defense has placed an administrative limit on our BOQ's of $7,000 a man to the building 5-foot line, regardless of the fact that the statutory limit allows $8,500. We are trying to accomplish this under that limit.

So we are requesting in every case this amount, sir.

Senator STENNIS. I believe that limit was set a few years ago.

Major General SHULER. Actually the costs have risen each year, the construction cost, but we changed the design to more of a motel type in the instance of up to 100 officers, and this is a cheaper type construction. I think there is a pretty good chance of getting pretty close to that figure.

Senator STENNIS. It is not an inferior type construction, is it?

Major General SHULER. It is less massive than the normal bachelor officer's quarters which is reinforced concrete frame type. I think it is substantial enough especially in the West, South, and areas where the climate is not real cold.

Senator STENNIS. You have gotten some good motel people, is that right?

Major General SHULER. I believe that is probably so.

Senator STENNIS. They are an intelligent group. I notice their improvements, they give you more for the money than you would ever get?

Major General SHULER. That is right.

Senator STENNIS. All right, we will certainly be interested in this and the locations will be put in the record at this point.

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